Cockpit voice recorder transcript

LEVEL 3 Final report

Based on the investigation authority's final report.

Date
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Occurrence
High altitude stall and double engine failure
Location
Residential area about 2.5 miles south of Jefferson City Memorial Airport, Missouri
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Operator
Pinnacle Airlines, doing business as Northwest Airlink
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Aircraft
Bombardier CL-600-2B19 (CRJ-200)
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Registration
N8396A
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Route
Little Rock to Minneapolis-St. Paul; Part 91 positioning flight
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People aboard
2 pilots; no cabin crew or passengers
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Fatalities
2, both pilots; none on the ground
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Survivors
0 aboard the aircraft
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Topics
Crew coordination, Engine failure, Loss of control, Pilot training, Nonrevenue operations

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Pinnacle Airlines CRJ-200 in Northwest Airlink colours flying with its landing gear extended

A Pinnacle Airlines CRJ-200 in Northwest Airlink colours.

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Representative fleet aircraft photographed on 22 August 2006, after the accident.

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Original photograph unchanged. A smaller version was resized for display.

Geographic context

Geographical orientation for Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701Little Rock National Airport, departure; Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, planned destination; Jefferson City Memorial Airport, attempted landing; Accident vicinity south of Jefferson City airport. Markers show the departure, planned destination, attempted landing airport and approximate accident vicinity. The aircraft crashed in a residential area about 2.5 miles south of Jefferson City Memorial Airport.1234NORTH UP / SCHEMATIC / NOT A RECORDED FLIGHT TRACK
  1. Little Rock National Airport, departure
  2. Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, planned destination
  3. Jefferson City Memorial Airport, attempted landing
  4. Accident vicinity south of Jefferson City airport
Markers show the departure, planned destination, attempted landing airport and approximate accident vicinity. The aircraft crashed in a residential area about 2.5 miles south of Jefferson City Memorial Airport. Basemap: Natural Earth, public domain.
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What happened

The pilots climbed using autopilot vertical speed mode as airspeed fell, then pulled against repeated stickpusher activations. The resulting stall disrupted airflow into both engines and caused them to flame out. During the descent, the crew failed to maintain the speed needed to keep the engine cores rotating or to reach the speed required for a windmill restart. NTSB concluded that the stopped cores locked and prevented the subsequent APU-assisted restarts.

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What investigators concluded

NTSB identified the pilots' unprofessional behaviour, departures from procedures and poor airmanship, inadequate training, delayed emergency landing preparations, and improper management of the double engine failure checklist in its probable causes. Core lock and flight manuals that failed to explain the importance of maintaining core rotation contributed.

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What happened to Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701

1,678 words / about 8 minutes to read. Based on the investigation records cited below.

A repaired aircraft needed in Minneapolis

Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701 left Little Rock National Airport at about 21:21 on 14 October 2004. The Bombardier CL-600-2B19, a CRJ-200 registered N8396A, was being moved to Minneapolis-St. Paul for its next assignment. Only the captain and first officer were aboard. Pinnacle operated as Northwest Airlink, and this positioning flight was conducted under Part 91 with an instrument flight rules flight plan.

Earlier that day, a different crew had rejected a takeoff in the aircraft after a warning about a right engine bleed air duct. The passengers and crew transferred to another aircraft. Mechanics sent from Memphis found chafing damage on a sensing loop in the engine pylon, replaced the loop and ran the engine for about 30 minutes. N8396A was then released for service. Its takeoff weight for the positioning flight was 39,336 pounds, below the 53,000-pound maximum, and its centre of gravity was within limits.

The company flight plan specified a cruise altitude of 33,000 feet. Both engines were operating normally before the later upset. NTSB found the aircraft properly certified, equipped and maintained, and found weather, fatigue and hypoxia were not factors in the accident.

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Aggressive manoeuvres during the climb

The first unusual pitch manoeuvre came about five seconds after takeoff, roughly 190 feet above the ground. The pilots moved the control column aft, producing a 22-degree nose-up pitch and a load of 1.8 G. The stickshaker and stickpusher activated, followed by a full nose-down control column movement. These systems warned of an approaching stall and pushed the control columns forward to reduce the angle of attack.

Two further pitch-up manoeuvres followed at about 15,000 and 24,600 feet. The first briefly produced a climb rate of 10,000 feet per minute and a load of 2.3 G. The crew also made alternating rudder inputs. NTSB found the manoeuvres had no operational purpose and likely took the aircraft beyond its certificated flight envelope.

The pilots changed seats during the ascent. Investigators established their positions by correlating recorded voices and radio transmissions with microphone key data. The captain occupied the right seat and the first officer the left through much of the flight, including the upset. At about 21:35:36, the captain requested 41,000 feet, the CRJ's maximum operating altitude. The controller cleared the climb at about 21:36:13.

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Reaching 41,000 feet with too little speed

During the final climb from 37,000 to 41,000 feet, the autopilot used vertical speed mode with a commanded climb rate of 500 feet per minute. Airspeed fell from 203 knots, or Mach 0.63, to 163 knots, or Mach 0.57, as the aircraft levelled at about 21:52:08. The required climb schedule was 250 knots until Mach 0.70 became the controlling speed.

At the lower speed, the aircraft entered a region where increased drag exceeded the thrust available to accelerate it. NTSB found that selecting vertical speed mode allowed the climb to continue at the expense of airspeed and brought the aircraft to 41,000 feet in a critically low energy state. The flight crew had failed to understand how airspeed affected the aircraft's performance at that altitude.

The cockpit recording captured both pilots expressing excitement about reaching 41,000 feet. The captain left his seat to fetch a drink. When a controller remarked on the unusually high altitude, the captain explained that they had no passengers and had chosen to go there for enjoyment. Within minutes, the pilots recognized that the aircraft was losing performance. At about 21:54:32, the captain requested a lower altitude.

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The stall and the loss of both engines

While the controller coordinated the descent, airspeed continued to deteriorate. At about 21:54:36, the stickshaker activated at approximately 150 knots. Further stickshaker and stickpusher activations followed. Each time the stickpusher moved the columns forward, the pilots pulled aft again. Their increasing aft inputs opposed the system's attempt to reduce the angle of attack.

At about 21:54:57, another stickshaker and stickpusher activation occurred. The aircraft pitched up to 29 degrees and entered an aerodynamic stall. It then rolled as far as 82 degrees left wing down and pitched as far as 32 degrees nose down. Airflow into both engine inlets was disrupted, producing engine stalls and a complete loss of power. Both engines flamed out.

At 21:55:06, the captain declared an emergency and asked the controller to stand by. The crew recovered control near 34,000 feet. Fuel flow indications had fallen to zero, and engine speeds continued to decrease. At 21:55:20, loss of normal electrical power interrupted the flight data recorder. The cockpit voice recorder continued operating.

NTSB found the stickshaker and stickpusher had functioned normally. A software error placed the displayed low speed cue about 10 knots too low. The crew had been taught to respond to the stickshaker regardless of the displayed cue, but their control inputs intensified the stall.

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The cores stopped during the descent

The pilots recognized the loss of both engines shortly after the upset. They began the double engine failure checklist at about 21:56:42. Its initial memory items included establishing a target airspeed of 240 knots. That speed was important because airflow through the engines kept their cores rotating and preserved the possibility of restarting them.

The crew failed to achieve and maintain 240 knots. Before the aircraft descended through 28,000 feet, both cores had stopped. When the flight data recorder resumed at about 21:59:16, the auxiliary power unit was supplying electricity. The aircraft was at 29,200 feet and 178 knots, and both engine core speed indications were zero.

The checklist called for a windmill restart between 21,000 and 13,000 feet, with at least 300 knots to drive the cores fast enough for a relight. The captain twice instructed the first officer to increase speed. The resulting nose-down inputs were too small and too brief. The aircraft reached only 236 knots before slowing again.

NTSB found the captain failed to ensure the required speed was reached or take control and accelerate the aircraft himself. The manuals described 240 knots as a target but did not explain that maintaining core rotation was essential to a successful restart.

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Repeated restart attempts and delayed disclosure

After the windmill attempt failed, the crew descended towards 13,000 feet to try restarting with bleed air from the auxiliary power unit. Four APU-assisted attempts followed between about 22:07:04 and 22:12:07, two on each engine. Both core speed indications remained at zero. None of the attempts restored engine power.

Controllers still lacked a clear description of the emergency. At about 22:03:09, the captain had referred to an engine failure and a descent to start the other engine. The controller replied that he understood the aircraft was in controlled flight on one engine. The captain allowed that understanding to stand. At about 22:06:40, another controller asked whether the crew wanted to land. The captain asked him to wait while they tried a restart.

The crew returned to their normal seating positions near the end of the descent. At 22:09:06, the first officer informed the controller that neither engine was running and requested the nearest airport. Almost 14 minutes had elapsed since the pilots recognized the double engine failure.

NTSB found the captain intentionally gave controllers an inaccurate description of the situation. The delayed disclosure reduced the assistance available for identifying a reachable airport and preparing for an emergency landing.

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Crash of Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701, Bombardier CL-600-2B19, N8396A, Jefferson City, Missouri, October 14, 20042.2.4 Communications With Air Traffic Controllers and Management of Forced Landing | Printed page 52 | PDF page 64Find this passage in evidence search
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Landing options disappeared as altitude fell

Investigators calculated the aircraft's glide capability using a reference speed of 170 knots and including drag from the deployed emergency generator and flight spoilers. At 30,000 feet, six airports were within the calculated best glide range, including Jefferson City. At 20,000 feet, five remained within range. By 10,000 feet, Lee C. Fine Memorial Airport was the only airport within range, but the aircraft had already overflown it.

Jefferson City was just outside the calculated best glide range at 10,000 feet. It lay essentially ahead of the aircraft, while returning to Lee C. Fine would have required a 160-degree turn that consumed altitude, speed and distance. NTSB found the controller correctly directed the aircraft towards Jefferson City from that position. The pilots had descended from about 35,000 to 10,000 feet before disclosing the full emergency.

The controller provided wind, approach and localizer information for runway 30. After descending out of cloud near 5,000 feet, the crew sought further directions to the airport. At about 22:14:02, the first officer reported seeing the runway. The captain soon realized they could not reach it and asked about a road. Radar showed a left turn towards a straight, illuminated section of highway.

The crew kept the landing gear retracted. Ground proximity alerts sounded in the final seconds. At about 22:15:06, the cockpit recorder captured an impact sound and stopped shortly afterwards. The aircraft struck trees and the ground in a residential area about 2.5 miles south of the airport. Both pilots died, and impact forces and fire destroyed the aircraft. No one on the ground was injured.

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Crash of Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701, Bombardier CL-600-2B19, N8396A, Jefferson City, Missouri, October 14, 20042.2.4 Communications With Air Traffic Controllers and Management of Forced Landing | Printed page 53 | PDF page 65Find this passage in evidence search
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Core lock, training gaps and the final findings

Engine examinations and tests of the starting system found no mechanical failure that explained the lack of core rotation. Investigators examined earlier CF34 engine restart failures during production acceptance testing. General Electric and Bombardier had attributed those failures to contact at a high pressure turbine air seal, a condition they called core lock.

NTSB concluded that the abrupt high power, high altitude flameouts caused severe thermal changes in the accident engines. Seal teeth contacted stationary material as clearances changed. Once the cores stopped, binding prevented them from turning during the windmill and APU-assisted restart attempts. Cooling subsequently restored the clearances, leaving no physical evidence of the temporary interference inside the engines.

The final report, adopted on 9 January 2007, identified unprofessional behaviour, departures from procedures and poor airmanship, inadequate training, delayed emergency landing preparations, and improper checklist management in the probable causes. Core lock and inadequate explanation of the need to maintain core rotation in flight manuals were contributing factors.

Pinnacle had not practised high altitude climbs or double engine failures in simulator training before the accident. Afterwards, it added high altitude demonstrations and a double engine failure scenario, and revised its checklist to emphasize minimum speeds. NTSB recommended improved high altitude training, simulator practice in high altitude stall recovery, clearer double engine failure guidance and greater oversight of nonrevenue flights. Recommendations issued in November 2006 also called for engine restart testing and explicit core lock guidance in flight manuals.

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Crash of Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701, Bombardier CL-600-2B19, N8396A, Jefferson City, Missouri, October 14, 20044.3 Previously Issued Recommendations Resulting From This Accident Investigation | Printed page 76 | PDF page 88Find this passage in evidence search

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How the sequence developed

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  1. Airspeed falls during the climb

    The selected 500-feet-per-minute climb continued while airspeed fell. At 41,000 feet, the aircraft lacked the excess thrust needed to accelerate from its low speed condition.

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  2. Control inputs deepen the stall

    The pilots pulled aft against each stickpusher activation. The aircraft stalled and entered an upset that disrupted airflow into both engines.

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  3. Both engines lose power

    Both engines flamed out. The crew recovered aircraft control near 34,000 feet and began an unpowered descent.

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  4. Core rotation stops

    The crew failed to maintain 240 knots. Both engine cores stopped, and thermally induced binding prevented them from turning during subsequent restart attempts.

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  5. Restart attempts fail

    The windmill restart attempt reached only 236 knots. Four APU-assisted attempts followed, with both engine core speed indications remaining at zero.

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  6. Emergency landing preparation comes late

    Controllers learned that both engines had failed almost 14 minutes after the crew recognized the emergency. Jefferson City was then just outside the calculated best glide range.

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A simplified reading of the investigation findings. The sequence does not replace the full report or imply that every contributing factor is shown.

Sequence of events

Central daylight time, using the 24-hour clock. Altitudes are mean sea level unless identified otherwise. Expand an event to see its evidence.

  1. 21:21Departure from Little Rock

    Flight 3701 departed on its positioning flight. The company flight plan specified a cruise altitude of 33,000 feet.

  2. 21:35:36 to 21:36:13Request and clearance for 41,000 feet

    The captain requested the CRJ's maximum operating altitude, and the controller approved the climb.

  3. 21:52:08Level at the maximum altitude
  4. 21:54:36Stall warning begins

    The stickshaker activated at about 150 knots. Further stickshaker and stickpusher activations followed.

  5. 21:54:57 to 21:55:20Stall, upset and loss of both engines

    The aircraft stalled, rolled to 82 degrees left wing down and pitched 32 degrees nose down. The crew recovered control near 34,000 feet, with both engines flamed out.

  6. 21:56:42Double engine failure checklist begins

    The crew began the checklist but failed to establish and maintain its 240-knot target airspeed.

  7. 22:02:12Windmill restart speed remains too low

    The highest airspeed reached during the restart attempt was 236 knots, below the required 300 knots.

  8. 22:07:04 to 22:12:07Four APU-assisted restart attempts

    Two restart attempts were made on each engine. Both core speed indications remained at zero.

  9. 22:09:06Controllers learn both engines have failed

    The crew disclosed the double engine failure almost 14 minutes after recognizing it and requested the closest airport. Jefferson City was ahead.

    Crash of Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701, Bombardier CL-600-2B19, N8396A, Jefferson City, Missouri, October 14, 20042.2.4 Communications With Air Traffic Controllers and Management of Forced Landing | Printed page 52 | PDF page 64Find this passage in evidence search
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  10. 22:14:02 to 22:15:06Runway sighted, followed by impact

    The first officer saw the runway, but the crew realized it could not be reached. The aircraft turned towards a lit highway and struck trees and the ground in a residential area.

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Questions readers ask

Was anyone else aboard?

Only the captain and first officer were aboard. The injury table lists no passengers or cabin crew. Both pilots died, and no one on the ground was injured.

What did NTSB conclude about the climb?

NTSB found the decision to fly at 41,000 feet and the aggressive pitch and yaw manoeuvres were made for personal reasons. Inappropriate use of vertical speed mode allowed airspeed to fall to a critically low level.

How did the aircraft's stall protection behave?

Investigators found the stickshaker and stickpusher operated normally. The pilots repeatedly pulled back after the stickpusher moved the columns forward, increasing the angle of attack and intensifying the upset.

What the evidence can and cannot establish

Recorded performance at the highest angle of attack

The air data computers were not calibrated for the extreme angle of attack reached in the upset. NTSB cautioned that the recorded 74-knot airspeed and 42,000-foot altitude at that point could be inaccurate.

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A temporary thermal interference

NTSB inferred core lock from the restart behaviour, engine tests and earlier CF34 events. The engines contained no physical evidence of the temporary interference after cooling restored operating clearances.

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Safety follow-up

Actions and recommendations are described at the dates of the cited records. A recommendation is not proof of implementation.

Pinnacle revised training and checklists

After the accident, Pinnacle added a double engine failure simulator scenario at 35,000 feet and high altitude buffet demonstrations. In May 2005, its checklist revisions emphasized minimum airspeeds and the need to preserve core rotation.

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NTSB called for stronger training and oversight

Recommendations A-07-1 through A-07-7 addressed high altitude performance, stall recovery, stickpusher response, double engine failure procedures, professional conduct and review of nonrevenue flight data.

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Core lock recommendations were issued in November 2006

Recommendations A-06-70 through A-06-76 called for restart tests, explicit minimum core rotation speeds, glide performance information, review of other turbine engines and certification requirements addressing restart capability.

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Recorder data quality remained an open issue

The final report reiterated A-03-15 on regional aircraft recorder sampling and accuracy and classified the FAA response as open and unacceptable in January 2007.

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Classifications, with reasons

These labels organise the evidence. They are not a ranking of causes. A shared label means a shared research topic, not an identical mechanism.

causeLoss of control

Low airspeed at 41,000 feet and repeated aft control inputs against the stickpusher led to an aerodynamic stall and upset.

causeEngine failure

The upset disrupted engine inlet airflow. Both engines flamed out, and their cores stopped and locked during the descent.

causeCrew coordination

Checklist management and delayed communication about the loss of both engines prevented timely use of restart and emergency landing options.

riskPilot training

The pilots had lacked simulator practice in high altitude stall recovery and double engine failure. NTSB found these training gaps contributed to their handling of the emergency.

circumstanceNonrevenue operations

The aircraft was being repositioned under Part 91 with only the two pilots aboard. NTSB called for greater scrutiny of regional airline nonrevenue flights.

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These comparisons connect specific research topics. Shared circumstances do not establish identical causes. Evidence from both investigations is provided below.

Colgan Air Flight 3407

Both investigations found that inappropriate pilot responses to stall warnings led to aerodynamic stalls. Pinnacle 3701 stalled at 41,000 feet, recovered aircraft control, and continued descending after both engines flamed out. Colgan Air 3407 stalled during its approach to Buffalo and did not recover. The reports connect stall recognition, control inputs and training across these different flight conditions.

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Further investigation records

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  • NTSB/AAR-07/01 final report

    NTSB / investigation record

    Flight sequence, recorder studies, performance calculations, engine testing, findings, recommendations and the original and revised double engine failure checklists.

Cockpit voice recorder transcript

A cockpit voice recorder (CVR) transcript records speech and sounds captured in the cockpit. This transcript was produced by the National Transportation Safety Board and is reproduced from printed pages 12-6 and 1 to 61 of the cited NTSB report; it is a US federal government work in the public domain.

Speaker codes and notation

CAM
Cockpit area microphone voice or sound source
INT
Flight crew audio panel intercom voice or sound source
CAS
Aircraft’s crew alert system mechanical voice sound source
RDO
Radio transmissions from N8396A
CTR-A
Radio transmission from first Kansas City center controller (R29 position)§
CTR-B
Radio transmission from second Kansas City center controller (R30 position)
CTR-C
Radio transmission from third Kansas City center controller (R53 position)
-1
Voice identified as the Captain
-2
Voice identified as the First Officer
-?
Voice unidentified
*
Unintelligible word
#
Expletive
…
Pause or interruption
( )
Questionable insertion
[ ]
Editorial insertion

Note 1: Times are expressed in central daylight time (CDT).

Note 2: Generally, only radio transmissions to and from the accident aircraft were transcribed.

Note 3: Words shown with excess vowels, letters, or drawn out syllables are a phonetic representation of the words as spoken. § See Air Traffic Control Group Chairman’s Factual Report for more information on controller position.

Cockpit voice recorder transcript, printed pages 12-6 and 1 to 61
TimeSpeakerText
2144:44START OF RECORDING START OF TRANSCRIPT
2144:48CAM[unintelligible conversation]
2145:16CAM-?*** you got that man.
2145:49CAM-1we're riding the green # line there.
2145:51CAM-2[sound of laughing] # dude.
2146:09CAM-1* Alpha two.
2146:12CAM-2is that where we're going?
2146:13CAM-1yeah.
2146:16CAM-1(where/what) the # is this.
2146:22CAM-2is ahh.
2146:27CAM-2[sound of laughing] look at the # fuel flow man.
2146:30CAM-1ah # dude they're both almost a thou- almost under a thousand and (flying/in climb) that's # unreal.
2146:31CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2146:36CAM-1# dude.
2146:37CAM-2dude I've seen this thing eat up like four thousand pounds an hour.
2146:39CAM-1I know (it).
2146:40CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2146:42CAM-1ooh. look at that.
2146:44CAM-1under two thousand # **… in a climb.
2146:49CAM-2that # crazy.
2146:57CAM-1anyway the green line is one point two V-S one so we still have you know * stall **…
2147:00CAM-2I think what you have * one point two seven isn't it?
2147:01CAM-1…yeah one two seven right yeah.
2147:06CAM-?*.
2147:08CAM-2couple of knots.
2147:12CAM-1the red line's where it can stall so.
2147:15CAM-2three nine oh.
2147:47CAM[sound of thumps]
2147:49CAM[sound of thump]
2147:52CAM-1doesn't look much different though.
2147:53CAM[sound of laughing]
2147:55CAM-1still pretty cool.
2147:58CAM-2yeah I'd have to say that yeah.
2148:00CAM-1***.
2148:05CAM[sound of clunks]
2148:44CAM-2man we can do it. forty one it.
2148:46CAM-?* baby.
2148:54CAM-?**.
2148:57CAM-2hundred and eighty knots still cruising at mach point six four.
2148:59CAM-1I know dude.
2149:00CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2149:04CAM-?minute **. two minutes to go.
2149:07CAM-1forty thousand baby.
2149:09CAM-2come on.
2149:24CAM-1look at that cabin altitude man.
2149:25CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2149:26CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
2149:27CAM-1thousand to go.
2149:28CAM-1should be at eight thousand feet moving… slowly (going up).
2149:30CTR-AFlagship thirty seven zero one would you like to go direct KASPR.
2149:30CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2149:33CAM-1sure.
2149:34CAM-2* might as well.
2149:36RDO-2yeah that'll be great thirty seven zero one direct KASPR.
2149:39CTR-Aall right cleared direct KASPR ah Flagship thirty seven zero one.
2149:44RDO-2thank you sir appreciate that thirty seven zero one going direct KASPR you saved us two minutes.
2149:48CAM-1[sound of laughing]
2149:51CAM[sound of click]
2150:04CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2150:04CAM-1that # (crazy/funny).
2150:05CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2150:09CAM-?**.
2150:28CAM-2aw yeah.
2150:30CAM-?[sound of whistling]
2150:43CAM[sound similar to paper rustling]
2150:59CAM[sound similar to paper rustling]
2151:01CAM-1I'm saying don't let it get below one seventy eh we're leveling off here anyways so.
2151:18CAM-2dang. [sound of laughing] our arrival fuel's supposed to be three point five.
2151:24CAM-1* I can't believe that # man that's crazy.
2151:26CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2151:27CAM-1we've saved a ton of # fuel.
2151:31CAM-2#. [sound of laughing]
2151:32CAM-1that's what I mean. I'll leave the power up 'til we get… (to level off) ***.
2151:39CAM-2we're at V-T.
2151:41CAM-?*.
2151:49CAM-1take a while for the thing to get started up.
2151:51CAM-2there's four one oh my man.
2151:53CAM-2made it man…
2151:54CAM-1yeah…
2151:55CAM-2…(five thousand) (feet/complete)…
2151:56CAM-1…(five/nine) thousand feet per minute.
2151:56CAM-2…(you) can see [sound of laughing]
2151:58CTR-AFlagship thirty seven zero one contact Kansas City one two five point six seven.
2152:02RDO-1twenty five sixty seven you have a good night thirty seven oh one.
2152:04CAM-2[sound of laughing] this is * great.
2152:09RDO-1Kansas City center good evening Flagship thirty seven zero one four one oh.
2152:12CTR-BFlagship thirty seven zero one Kansas City center roger.
2152:12CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2152:16CAM-1you'll get the you'll do the next one to say four one oh. * yeah baby.
2152:18CAM[sound of clunk]
2152:18CAM-2[sound of laughing] * four one oh # four one oh.
2152:22CAM-1want anything to drink?
2152:24CAM-2aw yeah actually I'll take a pepsi.
2152:26CAM[sound of clunks]
2152:27CAM-1want anything?
2152:28CAM-2hmm?
2152:28CAM-1you do want?
2152:29CAM-2a pepsi if you don't mind.
2152:30CAM-1a pepsi? I thought you said a beer man. yeah I'd like one too **.
2152:31CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2152:35CAM-2is that seal on the liquor cabinet? [sound of laughing]
2152:47CAM[sound of click]
2152:49CAM-?***. [lower volume]
2153:01CAM[sound of click]
2153:07CAM[sound of thump]
2153:14CAM-2#. [sound of laughing] this is the greatest thing no way. [sound of laughing]
2153:19CAM-1you want a can you want a cup we don't have any ice…
2153:20CAM-2that's fine.
2153:21CAM-1…they're cold as # dude.
2153:23CAM-2(yeah that's cool).
2153:24CAM-1accelerating up at all?
2153:26CAM[sound of click, similar to soda can opening]
2153:27CAM-2[sound of laughing] no man…
2153:28CAM-1nothing dude…
2153:28CAM-2…it ain't speeding up worth #.
2153:28CAM-1…look how high we are.
2153:29CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2153:30CAM-1this # nose is. look at how nose high we are.
2153:32CAM-2I know that's #. dude the # ball's way off man. dude the ball's full off.
2153:39CAM-1no #. look at this (ball/bug) dude.
2153:40CAM-2it's ***.
2153:42CAM[sound of laughing]
2153:42CTR-BFlagship thirty seven zero one are you a RJ two hundred?
2153:44CAM[sound of clunks]
2153:47RDO-1thirty seven zero one that's affirmative.
2153:49CAM-2forty four hundred.
2153:50CTR-BI've never seen you guys up at forty one there.
2153:51CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2153:51RDO-1yeah we're actually a ah. there's ah. we don't we don't have any passengers on board so we decided to have a little fun and come on up here.
2153:58CTR-BI gotcha.
2153:59RDO-1this is our actually our service ceiling.
2154:05CAM-1# thing's losing it…
2154:06CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2154:07CAM-1…we're losing here. we're gonna be # coming down in a second here dude.
2154:09CAM-2[sound of laughing]
2154:10CAM-1this thing ain't gonna # hold altitude. is it?
2154:16CAM-2it can't man. we # (cruised/greased) up here but it won't stay.
2154:19CAM-1yeah that's funny we got up here it won't stay up here.
2154:22CAM-2dude it's # losing it. [sound of laughing]
2154:23CAM-1yeah.
2154:29RDO-1and center thirty seven oh one.
2154:31CTR-Bgo ahead.
2154:32RDO-1yeah just as you said it looks like we're not even going to be able to stay up here ah look for maybe ah three nine oh or three seven.
2154:38CTR-BFlagship thirty seven oh one stand by.
2154:38CAM[sound similar to stick shaker]
2154:39CAM[sound similar to auto pilot disconnect]
2154:43CAM-2what'd he say?
2154:44CAM-1I dunno.
2154:45RDO-1say again for thirty seven oh one.
2154:47CAM[sound similar to stick shaker]
2154:48CAM[sound of warbler, similar to stick pusher warning]
2154:49CAM-1#.
2154:51CAM-2I got it.
2154:52CAM[sound similar to stick shaker]
2154:52CAM[sound of warbler, similar to stick pusher warning]
2154:53CTR-Band Flagship thirty seven zero one. I was off frequency say again?
2154:53CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
2154:55CAM[sound of triple chime, similar to master warning alert]
2154:56CAM[sound similar to stick shaker]
2154:56CAM[sound of warbler, similar to stick pusher warning]
2154:56CAM-1#.
2154:57CASengine oil.
2154:59CAM-1#.
2154:59CASengine oil.
2155:00CAM[sound of warbler, similar to stick pusher warning, continues for nine seconds]
2155:00CAM[sound of increased background noise]
2155:01CASengine oil.
2155:01CAM-1come on. come on.
2155:03CASengine oil.
2155:02CAM[sound of unidentified chirps]
2155:04CTR-BFlagship thirty seven zero one say.
2155:05CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2155:06RDO-1declaring emergency. stand by.
2155:07CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
2155:08CAM-1aw #.
2155:09CAM[sound of triple chime, similar to master warning alert]
2155:11CAM[sound of warbler, similar to stick pusher warning]
2155:11CASengine oil.
2155:12CAM[sound similar to decreasing engine RPM]
2155:12CTR-BFlagship thirty seven zero one…
2155:13CASengine oil.
2155:14CTR-B…descend at pilot's discretion maintain…
2155:15CASengine oil.
2155:15CTR-B…flight level two four zero.
2155:17CAM[sound of warbler, similar to stick pusher warning]
2155:17CASengine oil.
2155:19CASengine oil.
2155:19CAM-1two four zero flight two four zero.
2155:21CASengine oil.
2155:22CAM-1the important thing is.
2155:23CASengine oil.
2155:23CAM-?we don't have any engines.
2155:24CASengine oil.
2155:25INT[channel one, sound of two unidentified beeps]
2155:25CAM[sound of increased background noise, similar to air driven generator deployment]
2155:26CAM[sound of clunk]
2155:26CAM-1#.
2155:26CASengine oil.
2155:28CAM[sound of increased background noise, similar to air driven generator operation]
2155:29CASengine oil.
2155:29CAM-1A-D-G.
2155:30CASengine oil.
2155:31CAM-1pull. pull the handle.
2155:32CASengine oil.
2155:32CTR-Beverybody standby. Flagship thirty seven zero one the frequency's open.
2155:34CASengine oil.
2155:38CAM-1#.
2155:38CAM-2* (got deploy/plane). (we got deployment).
2155:39CAM-1got the airplane?
2155:39CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2155:40RDO-1stand by for thirty seven oh one.
2155:44CAM-?got the A-D-G?
2155:46CAM-?got the A-D-G.
2155:53CAM[sound of clunks]
2155:57CAM-1you gotta be kidding me.
2155:58CAM[sound of clunk]
2156:00CAM-2all right ahh… (stand by for)/(map light and) dome.
2156:05CAM[sound of click]
2156:05CAM[sound of chime, similar to passenger seat belt/no smoking sign]
2156:07CAM-?#.
2156:07CAM-1we're still descending aren't we? are we holding altitude?
2156:10CAM-2ahh yeah we got it.
2156:11CAM-1okay.
2156:12CAM-2we've got a little bit of engine (windmill) in one of them.
2156:14CAM-1(really)? okay we gotta go to emergency *.
2156:17CAM-2we're not holding alt- altitude.
2156:18CAM-1we're not?
2156:19CAM-2no we're not.
2156:19CAM-1okay. ahh flashlights. # (dude).
2156:24CAM-2flashlight's in my bag… my bag.
2156:26CAM-1there's bags all…** look back here.
2156:30CAM[sound of clunk]
2156:33CAM-1double engine failure… you holding altitude?
2156:39CAM-2ahh no I'm not.
2156:42CAM-1okay. continuous ignition on.
2156:45CAM-1thrust levers shut off. restart(ed)? shut off.
2156:52CAM-1A-D-G power's established. how do you know A-D-G power is established?
2156:56CAM-2see select A-C A-D-G.
2156:59CAM-1okay then we're gonna' pull. and then you're gonna try stab two trim engage.
2157:02CAM[sound of triple chime, similar to master warning alert]
2157:04CAScabin pressure.
2157:06CAM-1stab trim channel two.
2157:07CAScabin pressure.
2157:08CAM-1engaged.
2157:09CAScabin pressure.
2157:09CAM-1target airspeed established above flight level three four oh.
2157:11CAScabin pressure.
2157:12CAM-1we're below.
2157:13CAScabin pressure.
2157:13CAM-1point seven Mach.
2157:14CAM[sound of tone, similar to gear warning horn, continues until 2200:43]
2157:17CAM-1so look for point seven Mach. a hundred eighty.
2157:18CAM-1A-D-G. below thirty thousand feet. okay descend below thirty thousand feet.
2157:26CAM[sound similar to page turning]
2157:29CAM-?okay ***.
2157:36CAM-1# dude.
2157:46CAM-2* # gear's unsafe ***.
2157:52CAM-1I'll worry about that later.
2157:54CAM-?is the gear down or *** unsafe?
2157:58CAM-1okay go go descend still.
2158:00CAM-?all right.
2158:03CAM-1you got a question on (why/what) *.
2158:07CAM[sound of clunk]
2158:09CAM-2that was a dutch roll I believe.
2158:12CAM-1*** it was pulling and pushing…
2158:13CAM-2sure.
2158:13CAM-1…see the plane start to roll on us.
2158:15CAM-2we were descending at two thousand feet per minute.
2158:21CAM-2we need our oxygen masks.
2158:23CAM-1okay as soon as we're abov- below thirty thousand we can start the A-P-U.
2158:30CAM-?there you go.
2158:34CAM[sound of click]
2158:35CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2158:37CAM-2go on oxygen?
2158:39CAM-1you know what. yeah we need to go on oxygen.
2158:41CAM[sound similar to oxygen flow starting in oxygen mask]
2158:52CAM-?A-P-U.
2158:52CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2159:17CAM[sound similar to increased frequency of background noise from air driven generator]
2159:19CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2159:21CAM[sound similar to oxygen flow in oxygen mask]
2159:23CAM[sound of clicks]
2159:24CAM-1okay we have power.
2159:25CAM[sound of clicks]
2159:33CAM-1stow it away.
2159:37CAM[sound of clicks]
2159:44CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2159:46CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2159:46RDO-1and center Flagship thirty seven oh one.
2159:48CTR-BFlagship thirty seven oh one go American seven fifty one standby.
2159:51RDO-1yeah we're still descending we're gonna need to descend down ah probably lower probably gonna descend down to right now to about thirteen thousand feet is that okay?
2159:58CTR-BFlagship thirty seven oh one affirmative descend and maintain one three thousand your local altimeter setting is ah… oh stand by.
2200:07CTR-Btwo niner six five and ah one three thousand is approved Flagship thirty seven zero one.
2200:12RDO-1all right two nine six five thirty seven zero one.
2200:17CAM-1two nine six five your side.
2200:19CAM-1ahh no no no.
2200:22CAM-2no no no what do you got… oh heading.
2200:25CAM-1yeah.
2200:25CAM-2see what you got.
2200:27CAM-1yeah yeah it's two nine six five on altimeter setting.
2200:27CAM-2okay.
2200:28CAM-1when we come through.
2200:30CAM[sound similar to page turning]
2200:31CAM-1we're gonna have to descend down to ah.
2200:33CAM[sound similar to page turning]
2200:34CAM-1thirteen thousand feet.
2200:35CAM[sound similar to page turning]
2200:38CAM-1th- thirteen okay actually push the nose over. push it over. let's get above three hundred knots.
2200:43CAM[sound of tone, similar to gear warning horn ceases]
2200:46CAM-2okay.
2200:47CAM-1twenty one thousand feet. we need we need… ** check our airspeed and altitude.
2200:48CAM-?three hundred.
2200:57CTR-Band Flagship ah thirty seven zero one are you able to take a frequency change at this point?
2201:01RDO-1ah thirty seven oh one stand by.
2201:03CTR-Broger.
2201:05CAM-1I-T-T is ninety degrees Celsius or less. I-T-T is ninety degrees Celsius? no. 'kay it's getting to it. yeah its coming down now.
2201:11CAM-?***.
2201:31CAM-1I don't think we're gonna need that.
2201:36CAM-1* ignition on…
2201:38CAM-2yep.
2201:39CAM-1…airspeed not less than three hundred knots. you wanna push it up there three hundred knots. altitude loss approximately can be expected from two hundred forty to three hundred knots. I-T-T ninety degrees or less. N two is at least twelve percent… N two…
2201:51CAM-1…no we're not getting any N two at all. so we're gonna have to. gonna have to go to here. thirteen thousand feet we gotta go down here dude. we're going to use the A-P-U bleed air procedures.
2202:00CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2202:04CAM-?***.
2202:09CAM-?oh #.
2202:10CAM-1we need to slow it down. slow the rate of descent down.
2202:14CAM-1** target airspeed is established. target airspeed is a hundred ninety knots. hundred and seventy knots. go ahead and pull back to a hundred seventy knots. left and right tenth stage. tenth stage bleeds closed. left and right tenth stage bleeds closed. A-P-U load control valve open. continuous ignition.
2202:31CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2202:34CAM-1no… keep us going down… oh you know what. actually we can't do that yet.
2202:48CAM[sound of clunks]
2202:52CAM-?***.
2202:58CAM-?the gear?
2202:59CAM[sound of clunks]
2203:00CAM[sound of clunk]
2203:00RDO-1and thirty seven oh one we can change frequency at this time.
2203:06RDO-1center thirty seven oh one you there.
2203:09CTR-BFlagship thirty seven zero one ah roger I'll have a frequency change for you in just a moment. before I send you what was the nature of your emergency please?
2203:15RDO-1ah we had an engine failure up there at altitude it at ah airplane ah went into a stall and one of our engine's failure…
2203:22CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2203:22RDO-1…so we're gonna descend down now to start our other engine.
2203:25CTR-Bokay that's kinda what we were figuring there and ah understand you're controlled flight and ah you're gonna be able to return to normal when you get to lower altitude.
2203:30RDO-1ah right now we're not we're- stand by for that. we're descending down to thirteen thousand to start this other engine. we'll tell you.
2203:35CTR-BFlagship thirty seven zero one roger. understand controlled flight on a single engine right now and ah I'll go ahead and relay that. you can contact Kansas City center on one three four point five. just advise ah her of your intentions. one three four point five. good day.
2203:50RDO-1thirty four five good day.
2203:52RDO-1center Flagship thirty seven zero one's with you ah coming through eighteen thousand for thirteen.
2203:59CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one Kansas City center roger and advise of any further help you might need.
2204:02RDO-1will do thirty seven oh one.
2204:06CAM-1okay (don mask) get on oxygen.
2204:09CAM[sound similar to oxygen flow in oxygen mask]
2204:13INT-1yeah get on oxygen dude. we're at cabin altitude. I got it. fifteen thousand four hundred. we need to be on oxygen.
2204:26INT-1okay it's gonna be from thirteen thousand feet and below target airspeed established it's a hundred seventy knots. left and right tenth bleed will be closed. A-P-U open. continuous ignition check it's on. continuous ignition is on. left or right engine start. let's start number two first. * push. thrust lever at idle. * 'kay yeah th- these are off right now.
2204:51INT-1got another thirteen- three thousand feet to go.
2205:33INT-1as soon as we get a thousand you want a hundred and seventy knots like we. that's all we need. so we can pull it up a little bit and slow the rate of descent okay? you with me on this? you clear? you clear? all right we're gonna get this going. don't worry bro. all right? you okay? seriously? all right.
2205:52INT-1there you go.
2205:53INT[channel three audio ceases through end of recording]
2205:55INT-1okay fourteen thousand keep it coming down. don't wanna get too slow on airspeed. look for about a hundred and seventy. it's at least a hundred and seventy. that's your min. thirteen thousand feet okay. right left tenth visually closed.
2206:13CAM[sound of tone, similar to gear warning horn]
2206:23CAM[sound similar to oxygen mask removal]
2206:26RDO-1and cent- center thirty seven oh one we're gonna need a little lower ah to start this other engine up so we're gonna go down to about twelve or eleven is that cool?
2206:33CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one affirmative ah descend and maintain ah you wanna go down to eleven or twelve?
2206:38RDO-1ah we'll go down to at least eleven thousand thirty seven oh one.
2206:40CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one roger descend and maintain one one thousand and just advise you you want to go back to KASPR? do you want to land? what do you want to do?
2206:48RDO-1ah just stand by right now we're gonna start this other engine and see make sure if everything's okay.
2206:51CTR-Cokay.
2206:53CAM-1back to KASPR?
2206:54CTR-Chave a lot of choices up ahead Columbia's right up ahead. JEF's up ahead. and they're the best to accommodate you.
2206:59RDO-1roger * thirty seven oh one thank you.
2207:01CAM[sound of clunk]
2207:02CAM-1okay thirteen thousand feet.
2207:04CAM-1it says… right left tenth stage closed. they're closed. (A- P-O's/A-P-U isolation's) valve's open. it's open. dude let's check ** ready to start. here goes number one.
2207:17CAM-1start. time started.
2207:20INT[sound similar to oxygen flow in oxygen mask]
2207:34INT-1#.
2207:38INT-1let's stop it.
2207:41INT-1it says. * right left tenth stage closed. A-P-U L-C valve's open. A-P-U valve's open. right or left tenth stage ah push. right or left engine start push. there goes number two.
2207:59INT-1it's starting. right engine start.
2208:04INT-1we're not getting any N two.
2208:10INT-1aw #.
2208:11INT[sound similar to oxygen mask removal]
2208:13CAM-1off oxygen.
2208:15CAM[sound similar to oxygen mask removal]
2208:17CAM-1um. switch.
2208:20CAM-2yeah *.
2208:24CAM[sound of clunks]
2208:24CAM-1put it over there.
2208:26CAM[sound of clunks]
2208:30CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2208:33CAM-2(start switch).
2208:35CAM-1hold this.
2208:38CAM-1it's still on.
2208:43CAM-2you got it?
2208:43CAM-1I got it.
2208:46CAM-?**.
2208:49CAM-1go to that check pull that check list up.
2208:52CAM-2okay.
2208:53CAM-1tell her.
2208:55CAM-1that's it.
2209:00CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one what altitude do you want to go down to?
2209:02CAM-1tell her we need to get direct to airport neither engine's started right now.
2209:07CAM[sound of chime, similar to master caution alert]
2209:06RDO-2thirty seven zero one we need direct to any airport. we have a double engine failure.
2209:12CTR-Call right you want to go direct to JEF?
2209:14CAM-1any airport and closest airport.
2209:15RDO-2closest air- air- airport. we're descending fifteen hundred feet per minute we have ah nine thousand five hundred feet left.
2209:21CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one cleared direct JEF.
2209:23RDO-2what is the three letter identifier?
2209:26CTR-CJ-E-F.
2209:28RDO-2K-J-E-F.
2209:32CAM-1okay let me see ** start *** both engines.
2209:38CAM-1they're closed. tenth stage closed. A-P-U is on.
2209:44CAM-1*** getting power.
2209:46CAM-2no.
2209:48CAM-1*.
2209:49CAM-2* right there.
2209:49CAM-1power override.
2209:52CAM-1** power.
2209:52CAM-2okay.
2209:54CAM-1let's try this.
2209:56CAM-2# *.
2210:00CAM-1(nah/dead).
2210:05CAM-1**. this #. where do we have to go?
2210:06CAM-2JEF. J-K-J-E-F.
2210:08CAM-1*.
2210:09CAM-2right in front of you fifteen miles.
2210:10CAM[sound of clicks]
2210:11CAM-1seat belt on?
2210:14CAM[sound of clunks, similar to crew seat movement]
2210:19CAM[sound of clunks]
2210:21CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one descend at pilot's discretion maintain three thousand they're landing I-L-S runway three zero and…
2210:30CAM-1get a frequency. gotta get a frequency.
2210:28CTR-C…the winds are two niner zero at six knots.
2210:32CAM-?# *.
2210:36RDO-2I-L-S three zero. what is the frequency please.
2210:40CTR-Clet me give you the frequency for Mizzou approach is one two four point one.
2210:54RDO-2the approach frequency is one two four one or what is the I- L-S frequency?
2210:58CTR-Clet me get you the I-L-S frequency.
2211:00CAM-1**.
2211:00CAM-2that isn't it.
2211:02CAM-1no what is it? say again?
2211:03RDO-2what is the I-L-S frequency again?
2211:06CAM[sound of tone, similar to gear warning horn until 2211:37]
2211:10CAM-1ask her… #.
2211:15CAM-1(we're in the middle of the) # dark here.
2211:17CAM-2yeah we're running.
2211:19CAM-1you get her on the radio? talk to her.
2211:20CTR-Cit's ah one one zero point five.
2211:22RDO-2thank you much.
2211:24CAM-1one one zero five.
2211:25CTR-CFlagship did you get that? one one zero point five.
2211:27RDO-2one one zero five.
2211:30CAM-2going to green needles?
2211:31CAM-1yeah.
2211:33CAM[sound of click]
2211:34INT[channel three, low volume, morse code identifier for ILS three zero at JEF]
2211:37CAM-2okay should we try starting her up?
2211:39CAM-1yeah. yeah you might as well. try it dude.
2211:42CAM-2* (open).
2211:43CAM-1I dunno. #.
2211:44CAM-2I dunno if this thing is still starting.
2211:46CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one M-I-A is twenty seven hundred.
2211:51RDO-2roger that thanks.
2211:52CAM-1what is M-I-A?
2211:55CAM-2(I don't know man). ** # (start).
2211:59INT[sound of squeal, similar to microphone feedback]
2212:01CAM-?* #.
2212:03CAM-?* #.
2212:05CAM-2why isn't the # engine going anywhere?
2212:07CAM-1I dunno. we're not getting any N two.
2212:08INT[sound of squeal, similar to microphone feedback]
2212:09CAM-2we're not?
2212:10CAM-1left engine oil pressure. for some reason it's shut down. I-T-T N two.
2212:16CAM-1I don't get it either.
2212:19CAM-1ask her how we look.
2212:24CAM-1ask her how we look.
2212:24RDO-2thirty seven zero one. how do we look for the airport?
2212:27CTR-Cokay the airport is at your twelve o'clock and okay let's let's…
2212:31CAM-1** here.
2212:32CTR-C…make that eleven o'clock… and eight miles…
2212:37CAM-1how do we look for the runway?
2212:40CTR-C…okay from you it is a three sixty heading.
2212:44INT[sound of squeal, similar to microphone feedback]
2212:45CAM-1three sixty heading. * turn in now?
2212:51CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one three sixty heading eight miles.
2212:54CAM-1we're turning left.
2212:57CAM[sound of clunks]
2212:59CAM-1turn left three sixty heading. are we gonna make this airport? **.
2213:04CAM[sound of clunks]
2213:06CAM-2* # runway.
2213:07INT[sound of squeal, similar to microphone feedback]
2213:09CAM-1we don't have the airport in sight. we're heading three six zero now. do you have anything further information.
2213:14CAM[sound of clunks]
2213:17CAM-1you try yours. I'm not getting in t- through to her.
2213:20RDO-2how do we look now three six heading we do not have airport in sight.
2213:24CTR-Cand keep turning left. it's now about a three fifty heading.
2213:28RDO-2turning three fifty.
2213:32RDO-2I have the beacon in sight…
2213:33CAM-1where? where?
2213:34RDO-2…twelve o'clock.
2213:35CAM-2straight ahead.
2213:36RDO-2* head.
2213:36CAM-1straight ahead. where's the runway?
2213:36CTR-C*ship thirty seven zero one roger.
2213:37CAM-1are we lined up for the runway?
2213:38RDO-2I do not see the runway. I have the beacon…
2213:40CAM[sound of tone, similar to gear warning horn]
2213:41RDO-2…where is the runway?
2213:44CAM-1come on lady.
2213:47CAM-1talk to her again.
2213:49RDO-2Flagship thirty seven zero one have the beacon twelve o'clock the runway is at heading zero three zero?
2213:55CTR-CFlagship thirty seven zero one the beacon is on the far side of the runway.
2213:59RDO-2okay I think I have the approach end in.
2214:02CAM-2sight. here it is at twelve o'clock right.
2214:03CAM-1(right)? where?
2214:03CAM-2straight ahead.
2214:04CAM-1straight ahead. we're on the approach?
2214:07CAM-2yes.
2214:08CAM-2just.
2214:10CAM-2turn turn to the right a little bit.
2214:11CAM-1turn to the right a little bit?
2214:12CAM-2stay right there.
2214:14CAM-1right here?
2214:14CAM-2yeah.
2214:17CAM-1dude we're not gonna make this # thing.
2214:25CAM-2think we're okay.
2214:25CAM[sound of clicks]
2214:34CAM-1where is it? I don't know.
2214:36CAM-2we're not gonna make it man we're not gonna make it.
2214:38CAM-1is there a road? tell her we're not gonna make this runway.
2214:39RDO-2we're not gonna make the runway. is there a road?
2214:43CAStoo low gear.
2214:46CAM-1let's keep the gear up. #. I don't want to go into houses here.
2214:51CAM-2# road right there.
2214:52CAM-1where?
2214:52CAM-2turn turn…
2214:53CAM-1turn where?
2214:53CAM-2…turn to your left turn to your left.
2214:54CAStoo low gear.
2214:56CAM-1(I see it/I can't).
2214:58CAStoo low terrain terrain…
2214:59CAM-1can't make it.
2215:00CAS…whoop whoop pull up. whoop whoop pull up…
2215:03CAM-1aw #. we're gonna hit houses dude.
2215:05CAS…whoop whoop pull up.
2215:06CAM[sound similar to impacts]
2215:07END OF TRANSCRIPT END OF RECORDING

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NTSB final report adopted 9 January 2007.

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The flight data recorder lost power for 3 minutes 56 seconds during the descent. Throttle lever angle was not recorded, so NTSB could not determine whether the pilots applied power during the stall recovery.

Crash of Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701, Bombardier CL-600-2B19, N8396A, Jefferson City, Missouri, October 14, 2004

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Final report NTSB/AAR-07/01, adopted 9 January 2007

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NTSB AAR-10/01: Loss of control on approach, Colgan Air 3407

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